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Experience description 2808:  

My Father came to my jobsite to visit me this day, I had just started a new job and I told him that I didn't have time to speak to him. He told me that he just wanted to say hello and that we would talk later. 

That day after work there was a storm coming so I decided to go home instead of going to see him. I called to tell him that I was sorry that I didn't take time to speak to him and we finished our conversation as we normally talked every day.I went to bed and fell asleep. 

I remember standing and looking at my Father and his next door neighbor digging with a shovel. I wanted to walk up to him but I felt frightened. Someone came to my side and touched me on my back. I didn't look at this person but I knew and felt very comfortable with him. We walked up to my Father together.  

I found myself at the edge of a cliff overlooking a vast desert surrounded by black mountains. The clouds were black and still and the sky was overcast. It was very dry. I remember watching the dirt clods rolling down the cliff when we sat down to talk. There was a lone mountain in front of us with a cave. I told my Father that I would like to explore the cave and he told me that it was for him and his next door neighbors son. We talked for a while about little things. We never discussed death and he seemed content. Afterward he just walked away. 

I started following him to the cave. I saw him go into the entrance and I tried to enter it myself. I came upon a trail lined with boulders. As I followed it up the Mountain it became narrow and dangerous. I found myself holding on to the face of the Mountain and I couldn't find the entrance. I felt death was a possibility if I kept going. I turned around and went back.  

I emerged in a lawn of grass and clover. The grass was green and felt cool. Laying in cool grass and clover is one of my fondest childhood memories. The sky was blue and the birds were singing. I looked up at an open window and heard a phone ringing inside. I began to fall. 

I fell hard into my body. I felt like my hands and feet stayed put but the rest of my body kept passing through the bed. I was certain that my back was broken. I was nauseated and numb. My wife answered the phone. I was my brother and he was crying. I asked him if Dad was dead and he said yes. He asked if someone had already called. When I handed the phone to my wife I told her that my back was broken. She convinced me that I was okay and I then I began to grasp the news. 

I stayed with my Mother at her home for a while and one day their neighbor came to the fence to talk. Out of the blue he showed me his watch and said that it had stopped working on the night my Father died and had started working again that day. I never told him about my dream.

Was the kind of experience difficult to express in words?          No     

At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness?  when I woke up

How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal every day consciousness and alertness?          Less consciousness and alertness than normal

If your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience was different from your normal every day consciousness and alertness, please explain:        I was dreaming

Did your vision differ in any way from your normal, everyday vision (in any aspect, such as clarity, field of vision, colors, brightness, depth perception degree of solidness/transparency of objects, etc.)?          No     

Did your hearing differ in any way from your normal, everyday hearing (in any aspect, such as clarity, ability to recognize source of sound, pitch, loudness, etc.)?          No     

Did you experience a separation of your consciousness from your body?          Yes

What emotions did you feel during the experience?          curiosity

Did you meet or see any other beings?         Uncertain     The person that touched me. I felt very comfortable and secure with this person

Have you shared this experience with others?        Yes    The day of my Fathers death I shared this with my family

Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience? No     

How did you view the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened:   Experience was definitely real  

How do you currently view the reality of your experience:          Experience was definitely real        

Have your relationships changed specifically as a result of your experience?          No     

Have your religious beliefs/practices changed specifically as a result of your experience?
Uncertain     I believe in life after death but have always been turned off by organized religion. I do believe in God

Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life, medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience?    No                   

Did the questions asked and information you provided so far accurately and comprehensively describe your experience? Yes   


 

EXPERIENCE DESCRIPTION 8310:

On the day of my experience I started a new job. My Father stopped by unexpectedly to say hello and I told him I needed to work and couldn't visit with him, but would stop by his home after work to visit. After I finished the day I noticed a storm was forming in the direction of his home so I decided to go home instead. I called him as I usually did every day and apologized if I was rude. He apologized as well As it turned out he visited other members of the family as well as his grand kids that day. I had a normal evening with my wife and went to bed and fell right to sleep.

I was standing several feet away from from my Father. It was kind of hazy and he was digging with a shovel. I don't know why, but I was afraid to approach him. Someone came up to me from behind and touched me with their hand on my lower back. I never looked at this person , but felt comfort and was unafraid as I approached my Father.

We were standing on a ridge overlooking a desert with black pointed and jagged mountains in the background. There was a lone mountain closer to us that was kind of lit up and had a cave. It was quite and looked like dusk with overcast skies and small black clouds that were still. We both sat down at the edge of the ridge to talk. The soil was very dry and I watched the dirt pebbles go down the hill in sharp detail as my foot rubbed the soil when I sat down.

As we were talking I was trying to see into the cave. My Father told me I couldn't go in there because it was only for him and his next door neighbors child. His next door neighbors were a young couple without children. I don't remember much more of the conversation other than it was short and pleasant. I always told my mother that he asked me to look after her to help her with her grief. We had a pact that she would come see me when she died. I left her at her deathbed hoping that she would she would have a chance, but it didn't happen and there has been no experience with her.

I don't remember seeing him walk away, but I was alone on the ridge and assumed he was in the cave. I walked down the hill and toward the cave with intention to join him. As I got closer to the mountain there was a narrow trail lined with boulders leading to the cave. The further I went the narrower it became. I couldn't find the opening because i had to basically hug the mountain to keep from falling. I knew I would die if I fell because it was very high up. I gave up and went down to find my way back.

I was very thirsty trying to find my way back and was feeling desperate and unable to find the ridge. I went into a gully and came up into my dads neighbors backyard. The sky was blue and birds were singing. There was clover everywhere and I laid my face in it to cool me down and it was a wonderful feeling. As I was laying there I looked up at a open window. There was a phone ringing and I began to fall. I saw myself in my bed and I fell into my body. My feet and head stayed in my body, but my back kept going through the bed. It came back up and I felt numb and nauseated. My wife handed me the phone to speak to my brother and he was very upset. I asked him if dad was dead and he said yes. He asked me if I had already spoken to someone and I just told him I had a feeling. I handed my wife the phone and begged my Father to forgive me. I told my wife that I had broken my back and was unable to get up. After a few minutes of her reasoning with me I realized that I was okay and only a little sick from my experience.

I told my family about my experience that day and through the years to a few people. I think mostly there is skepticism that it was anything more than a dream. We stayed with my Mother for a while to help out and one day the neighbor walked up to me at the backyard fence to talk. He told me that his watch stopped working the day my dad died and had just started working again that day. I never mentioned the dream to him and lost touch soon after so I don't know if they ever lost a child.

At the time of your experience was there an associated life-threatening event? Uncertain There was a cave that my Father entered but I was unable to.

Was the experience difficult to express in words? No

At what time during the experience were you at your highest level of consciousness and alertness? I think I was alert through the whole dream because of the details that I would never see in a normal dream.

How did your highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare to your normal everyday consciousness and alertness? Less consciousness and alertness than normal I didn't know my father was dead until I woke up

Please compare your vision during the experience to your everyday vision that you had immediately prior to the time of the experience. That's hard to answer because this was an unusual place. I would describe it as like a negative of a photo. The backyard was the complete opposite.

Please compare your hearing during the experience to your everyday hearing that you had immediately prior to the time of the experience. There were no sounds in this place other than our voices. The sounds in the backyard were intense

Did you see or hear any earthly events that were occurring during a time that your consciousness / awareness was apart from your physical / earthly body? Uncertain The backyard was earthly but not real

What emotions did you feel during the experience? normal

Did you pass into or through a tunnel? No

Did you see an unearthly light? No

Did you seem to encounter a mystical being or presence, or hear an unidentifiable voice? I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin
The person that touched my back was someone that made me feel loved. I never saw him but felt like knew him or her

Did you encounter or become aware of any beings who previously lived on earth who are described by name in religions (for example: Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, etc.)? No

Did you encounter or become aware of any deceased (or alive) beings? Yes My father was deceased when I had this dream

Did you become aware of past events in your life during your experience? No

Did you seem to enter some other, unearthly world? A clearly mystical or unearthly realm
I described this place in detail above

Did time seem to speed up or slow down?
No

Did you suddenly seem to understand everything? No

Did you reach a boundary or limiting physical structure? Yes
The mountain and cave

Did you come to a border or point of no return? I came to a barrier that I was not permitted to cross; or was sent back against my will

Did scenes from the future come to you? No

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness suggesting that there either is (or is not) continued existence after earthly life (“life after death”)? No

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness that God or a supreme being either does (or does not) exist? No

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness that you either did (or did not) exist prior to this lifetime? No

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness that a mystical universal connection or unity/oneness either does (or does not) exist? No

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness regarding earthly life’s meaning or purpose? No

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness regarding earthly life’s difficulties, challenges, or hardships? No

During your experience, did you encounter any specific information / awareness regarding love? No

During your experience, did you encounter any other specific information / awareness that you have not shared in other questions that is relevant to living our earthly lives? No

Did you have a sense of knowing special knowledge or purpose? No

What occurred during your experience included: Content that was entirely not consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience

How accurately do you remember the experience in comparison to other life events that occurred around the time of the experience? I remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred around the time of the experience

My experience directly resulted in:
No changes in my life

Did you have any changes in your values or beliefs after the experience that occurred as a result of the experience?
No

Do you have any psychic, non-ordinary or other special gifts after your experience that you did not have before the experience? No

Have you ever shared this experience with others?
Yes The same day. My wife and brother believe something happened because of their experience with me

Did you have any knowledge of near death experience (NDE) prior to your experience? Yes I don't know if this qualifies as NDE, but I believe death was a possibility. I could have decide to keep going

What did you believe about the reality of your experience shortly (days to weeks) after it happened: Experience was definitely real This experience was spiritual and physical for me and has stayed with me every day since

What do you believe about the reality of your experience at the current time: Experience was definitely real Something physical happened to me when I returned to my body

Have your relationships changed specifically as a result of your experience? No

Have your religious beliefs/spiritual practices changed specifically as a result of your experience? No

At any time in your life, has anything ever reproduced any part of the experience? No

Is there anything else that you would like to add about your experience? I hope there are other people that had this same experience that I can communicate with

Did the questions asked and information that you provided accurately and comprehensively describe your experience? No I didn't actually die and come back so I don't know if this something that interest your organization

What could a national organization with an interest in near death experience (NDE) do that would be of interest to you? Send me to the right place if you don't investigate experiences like this