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Patrick M's ADC

Experience description:  

This experience began as a vivid and still memorable dream.  The setting was World War ll Holland in mid to late fall, and the location was a small waterfront city with a harbor.  It seemed to be 9 or 10 PM.  From above, and at a slight angle, I looked down and slightly to the left and saw a small German (Nazi) army truck unloading 4 to 6 soldiers.  To the right, perhaps a 60 meters (yards) from the truck, was a Jewish man trying desperately to get away from the soldiers.  I saw this from about 25 or 30 meters (yards) above the ground.  The area was dimly lit by an occasional streetlight.  I watched him moving to my right as he fled.  In an instant, without intent, I entered the body of that fleeing man.  I simply became him. 

I seemed to be about 40 or 45 years old.  I was alone.  I was dressed in traditional clothing, had a beard, traditional haircut and, I think, wore gold colored wire-rimmed glasses.  I did not seem to be a rabbi or anyone special, nor was I carrying anything.  I was being hunted for sport and was terrified as I fled for my life. 

From my first view from above I saw the street to be poorly lit and deserted.  It was a warehouse district on the waterfront.  I made my way in my straight ahead on the sidewalk on the left side of the street.  The road was wet from recent rain and was puddled.  There were sidewalks on both sides or the road.  The area had been poorly maintained and may best be described as 'seedy.' 

In his body, being him, I felt desperate panic and terrible, indescribable fear.  The soldiers followed, laughing and catcalling as they enjoyed their sport.  It was like hounds driving a hare and I could hear their laughter.  They pressed on but not in a rush.  I continued on, trying doors to see if one would open and give me a place to hide.  I rushed on, not at a full run, but as urgently as I could on legs wobbly with terror.  My fear was so great I could have passed out or simply frozen in place.  I tried the left side of the street, then angled to the right to try the other side, then back again.  The road was narrow, only a bit wider than one lane.  The puddles reflected the light of the odd streetlight and I feared that the light would give me away.  Back and forth I went as the soldiers continued on. 

On the left side of the street I came to a rundown warehouse.  I tried the door and it opened.  The inside was a poorly lit shambles with debris from stored containers scattered everywhere.  It seemed to have been looted or ransacked.  I made my way down a rather wide well lit hallway and, as I did, the general appearance improved.  I had come to an area of apartments,  Desperate to hide from the soldiers, I tried a door on the left and found it unlocked.  With less fear of who might be inside than of the soldiers, I opened the door and entered. 

A meter and a half (5 feet) to my front was a shoulder high wall made of wood, woven in some way near the top, which was decorated with plants.  I had to turn to the left to go down a hall for 2 meters (6 feet) and turned to the right.  To my left was the living room, to the right, the kitchen, with a table.  The apartment was nicely decorated and had a pleasant feeling.  At the kitchen table sat my deceased mother, listening very intently on a white telephone, and speaking occasionally.  The phone seemed three times normal size and my mother was focused and intense.  The conversation was clearly serious. 

My mother looked to be in her prime and about 30-34 years old.  There was no sign of any of the illnesses or difficulties that had so troubled her in life.  She did not appear happy to see me and was very direct in her speech.  She had hung up the telephone.  She looked at me and said 'Patrick, you have got to watch for the phone.  Watch the phone.  You have got to watch for the telephone.'  There was no further conversation.  I felt I had to continue to run from the pursuing soldiers to avoid being trapped in the apartment.  I fled out of the building, turned left and ran down the sidewalk on the left side of the street. 

 I came to a harbor where there were piers and wharfs where ships were unloaded and could tie up.  On the boardwalk along the waterfront I found stairs that led down and beneath a large, old and dirty dock.  Down I went and found a small wooden rowboat.  I heard the soldiers on the dock above me as they searched.  I heard one starting to come down the stairs as he played his flashlight about, searching for me.  I slid into to the water and sank below the surface.  I saw my bubbles floating to the surface in the yellow-brown water as he shined his light on the water above me. 

I awoke in my bed still feeling the terror of a hunted animal.  I knew this experience meant death but I did not know for whom.  I feared for my children but said nothing to my wife, who believes nothing of the psychic/spiritual realm.  On the morning of April 21, 2012 I received a telephone call from a relative informing me that my sister was dead.  The 'what' was never in doubt, The 'who' was now known. 

After this experience I gave up hunting. 


Before proof reading this submission I had a thought.  My mother very much disliked the killing of animals for sport.  I once told her I hunted deer and birds.  She screamed and acted as though she was physically hurt by this.  She again screamed at me 'Oh, no, Patrick, not the blood sports!'  Not only was I given a warning of death, I think my mother intentionally taught me what it was like to be hunted.  It was a moral lesson she apparently felt I needed to learn.

Was this experience difficult to express in words? No

Did you ONLY sense an awareness of presence of the deceased without actually seeing, hearing, feeling or smelling them?       No

Did you hear the deceased or hear something associated with the deceased?         Yes

            Describe what you heard, how clearly you heard it and what was communicated:            Patrick, watch the phone, watch for the telephone, you have to watch for the phone.'  Watching for the telephone was mentioned 3 times, each phrased slightly differently.  The communication came in a single, serious, earnest and direct sentence.  I heard it very clearly.  It was audible within the context of the experience.

            Did the voice or sound seem to originate externally or outside of you, inside you, or did you not hear a voice or sound, but had a sense of knowing what was communicated?            The voice was external.  I sensed it was important, a premonition or warning of death.  It was audible within the context of the experience, though perhaps not physically.  It was my mother's voice although her personality was different; she was very sharp and clear-headed.  In life she was quite different.

            If you heard a voice or sound, was it similar or dissimilar from the voice or sound the deceased made when they were alive?           It was my mother's voice but the person was different.  She was very focused and businesslike.  Her frailties, her disabilities and her inabilities were gone.  This was my mother at what appeared to be at the peak of her potential and ability.

            Is there any possibility what you heard was from any other source present in the surroundings at the time of your experience?          No.

            Was there any possible impairment to your hearing at the time of the experience? No.

Did you feel a touch or experience any physical contact from the deceased?           No

Did you see the deceased?        Yes

In her prime, totally unfettered from the hardship and wear and tear of life.

How clearly did the deceased appear?           Solid., within the context the experience.

How much of the deceased did you see?       From the waist up.  She was seated at a table in her apartment kitchen.

Did the deceased appear or not appear to be the age at which they died?      In life, a tired and worn 66 year old woman whose life was tainted by much suffering and hardship.  In this experience she appeared to be in her prime in every way.

How healthy did the deceased appear to be?           I saw my mother in what appeared to be her personal prime.  She appeared to be perfectly healthy.  Health may be better applied to the condition of a body, human or otherwise.  In spirit, I saw perfection.

Is there any possibility what you saw was from any other source present in the surroundings at the time of your experience?          No.

Did you smell a distinct smell, scent, fragrance or odor associated with the deceased?   No

How long did the experience last?       Contact with my mother was approximately 30 seconds to a minute.  The overall experience may have lasted between 3 and 15 minutes.  It is difficult to tell.  I was fearful beyond description.  Measuring these things using earthly time is problematic.  Time has no meaning in the out of body experience.  I make that statement based on multiple personal experiences.

Was the beginning and end of the experience gradual or more sudden?        In the beginning I was an interested observer.  Then I became a hunted fugitive evading the gas chamber.  In the end I was below the surface of dirty water trying desperately to live.  I awoke in my bed.  The transition simply happened.  There was no perceptible delay.

Could you sense the emotions or mood of the deceased?           Yes

Not happy to see me and strictly business.  Her presentation was in earnest and slightly rushed.  There was no small talk, to include hello or goodbye.

Did the deceased give you information you did not previously know? Yes, she gave me a warning of the impending death of my sister.  She did not identify who would pass.  She did not state there would be a death, I knew from the circumstances and ambiance there would be a death, but I did not know who.  My mother said 'Patrick, watch the phone, watch out for the telephone, you have got to watch the phone.'

How do you currently view the reality of your experience?          Experience was definitely real

            Please explain why you view the reality of your experience as real or not real:            Because my sister, my mother's youngest child, and her only daughter, was dead in less than 48 hours.  I was notified by telephone of the passing.  My mother told me to watch the phone.  I did, and a death took place, the passing notification was made by a relative who used her telephone to deliver the message.  There is nothing to doubt or second guess.

            Was the experience dream like in any way?  Yes

Because it took place when I was asleep.  My dreams have historically involved psychic experiences that provided information or led to OBE's.  I estimate 75% of my psychic experiences have taken place in dreams.  These things simply happen.

Describe in detail your feelings/emotions during the experience:          Initially viewing an event during wartime.  It was watching the beginning of a film.  I was not emotionally involved.  Then I became the central figure.  I was terrified of capture; evasion meant life, capture meant a death camp. There was an ungodly fear while being hunted to death and I hated it.  I was exhausted and near panicked.  The open warehouse door I found offered hope of survival.  My mother was not happy to see me, which was disappointing.  I had failed her in life and that added to the disappointment.  I knew what she told me meant death for someone.  I was fearful of being caught in her apartment so I fled.  Sinking into the dirty water meant I was likely finished and I waited for the bullets.

Was there any emotional healing in any way following the experience?          Uncertain

My sister and I were estranged.  Her passing meant that the enmity was over, which became a relief.  I realized that if we both lived another 50 years nothing would have changed.  Her death was simply the end.  I regretted that our mutual lives had not been better.  Even so, it was over and nothing could undo what was done.

What was the best and worst part of your experience?     Seeing my mother well was good.  Being hunted was not, nor was my sister's death.

Has your life changed specifically as a result of your experience?       Yes                 Describe:            I consider myself to now be experienced and better educated in the field of ADC.

Did you have any changes of attitudes or beliefs following the experience?  No      

Did the experience give you any spiritual understandings such as life, death, afterlife, God, etc.?            Yes     I saw clearly that my mother is perfectly well.  Having had OBE's and a lengthy NDE (like) experience, as well as being somewhat psychic, I find the paranormal to be a perfectly normal part of life.

Death Compacts are when two or more living people promise among themselves that whoever dies first will try to contact the other(s).  Have you ever made such a compact? No

Did you observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience that could be verified later?    No
What emotions did you feel during the experience?           Temporary lingering fear and fear of impending death for someone.  Also temporary emotional and physical exhaustion.  These things quickly passed, except the fear of being hunted to death.  That is still very memorable.

Was the experience witnessed or experienced by others?           No

Did you have any sense of altered space or time?  Yes

It seemed to be 1942-1944.  I was in Holland.  I cannot accurately speak to time beyond that.

Did you have a sense of knowing, special knowledge, universal order and/or purpose?   Yes

I knew someone would die and I feared for my children.

Did you become aware of future events?       Yes

Yes, death.  It came to pass within 48 hours.

Did you have any psychic, paranormal or other special gifts following the experience that you did not have prior to the experience?     No

Did you experience a separation of your consciousness from your body?     Yes

I entered the body of the fleeing Jewish fugitive, becoming, in fact and in deed, him.  I am, by the way, not Jewish.

Did you meet or see any other beings other than the deceased?        Yes

Pursuing Nazi soldiers 4 to 6 in number.  I had no direct contact with them.  There was no communication, other then them taunting me to keep me moving.  They were doing their assigned job but clearly it was sport and I was their game.

Did you see a light?          Yes

Only a few streetlights.

Did any part of your experience seem to occur in a place other than the location described above?          No

Have you shared this experience with others?        

Yes     Disbelief or they consider me to be in league with the demonic.

Have you shared this experience formally or informally with any other researcher or web site?   Uncertain

Not that I recall.

 Is there anything else you would like to add regarding your experience?      No.

Were there any associated medications or substances with the potential to affect the experience? No

Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life, medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience?         No 

Did you ever in your life have a near-death experience, out of body experience or other spiritual event?      Yes 

At least 6 OBEs, one of which involved entering another person's body.  I also have pre-birth memories and had a lengthy NDE-like experience.

Did the questions asked and information you provided accurately and comprehensively describe your experience?                     Yes

Please offer any suggestions you may have to improve this questionnaire.   None.