Sylvia W's ADC

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Experience description:

I was on my patio playing with my 2 yr. old grandson.  Suddenly I began to cry uncontrollably.  I was very confused as I wasn't sad, hurt, or anything.  I lit a cigarette, took deep breaths and tried to get under control.  I felt the presence of my mother who died 8/2001.  Then I was aware that another woman was with her.  I didn't know this woman.  They didn't communicate anything. 

Then Jack was there.  He was frustrated, and related that he was trying to communicate with his wife, but she "wouldn't shut up."  He requested that I loan his wife the money for his cremation.  She didn't have the money and would be too proud to ask me for it.  He said she would have enough to pay me back within a short time.  I agreed and they all left.  I stopped crying immediately.  This occurred from approx. 10:15 to 10:20-25am. 

At 10:50 my daughter called.  "Linda (his wife) just called us."  Me: "I know. Jack died."  She thought Linda had already called me.  I told her Jack had come to me.  The conversation ended as she was in her 2nd grade classroom with her students.  When Linda got home from the hospital she called me and said Jack had died at 10:30.  I told her he died at 10:15.  She said I was probably right as it took a while for them to pronounce him.  I asked her what the heck she was doing.  Jack was trying to communicate with her and she wouldn't shut up.  She said she was talking to him and wasn't listening.  I related to her that he had come to me, and requested I loan her the money for his cremation.  I told her to select a funeral director, find out the cost, and I would give her a check.  She did so the next day.  She was worried about paying me back as she was in debt, and missed a lot of work.  I told her not to worry about it. 

Shortly after, she sold Jack's truck and had some people interested in their camper.  They had been trying to sell these for months.  VA and SS are also coming through.  VA finally admitted his existence.  She's already paid me back half the loan. 

Jack finally did get through to her as she drove home from the hospital and,  "He's with me all the time."  In thinking back over the beginning of the experience, I think the crying is a way to get my attention.  I don't usually cry. 

My Mother, who died last year from Alzheimer's, was another way of getting my attention.  The other woman, I'm sure, was Jack's mother who died several years ago from Alzheimer's.  For the last 13 mos. of my mother's life, she didn't know me.  I cared for her 24/7. 

Jack and Linda always asked about her and offered to help in anyway they could.  When Jack finally tracked down his mother, she didn't know him due to the Alzheimer's.  She was a ward of the state as technically he didn't exist.  He was very frustrated and angry as he wanted to bring her to his home and care for her.  The nursing home wasn't permitted to give him any information.  She had been dead for a while (weeks?  months?) before he found out.  She was across the state and he was too ill for a while to travel. I'm crying again.  They're here with me and want me to write this.  After their bodies die from Alzheimer's, their essences are free and love us.  They understand our frustration and pain, but want us to know the loss of their memory is temporary.  I've stopped crying.  They're gone. I'm glad Jack is finally with his mother.  Linda is also relieved knowing he's not alone.

Background Information:

Degree of bereavement for deceased immediately prior to the experience:    
No sadness and/or grief feelings

Degree of alertness immediately prior to experience:         Fully alert

After your experience, did you consider the contents of your experience:       Wonderful

Have you had multiple experiences?   Yes     Multiple with just a presence.  Only one where I was asked to do something.

Was this experience difficult to express in words?  No

Did you ONLY sense an awareness of presence of the deceased without actually seeing, hearing, feeling or smelling them?            Yes

Did you hear the deceased or hear something associated with the deceased?          No

Did you feel a touch or experience any physical contact from the deceased?            No

Did you see the deceased?         No

Did you smell a distinct smell, scent, fragrance or odor associated with the deceased?      No

How long did the experience last?        5-10 min

Was the beginning and end of the experience gradual or more sudden?         Sudden.  About 2 min after I started crying, I realized the presence of my mother.  Within less than a min.  I was aware of the other female.  Within a min.  Jack was there.  As soon as they left, I stopped crying.

Could you sense the emotions or mood of the deceased?           Yes

Mom and the other woman were very calm. Jack was frustrated.  After I agreed to help his wife, he was very calm.

Did the deceased give you information you did not previously know?  Yes.  His body died.  His wife wasn't listening to him.  She didn't have the money to care for the body.  He wanted to be cremated.  She would have money coming in.  He was with his mother.

How do you currently view the reality of your experience?          
Experience was definitely real

            Please explain why you view the reality of your experience as real or not real:          Been there.  I would substitute the word "Light" for "God".  We are all part of the Light.

            Was the experience dream like in any way?   No

Describe in detail your feelings/emotions during the experience:           Crying, but not sad.

Was there any emotional healing in any way following the experience?           No

What was the best and worst part of your experience?      Knowing it was over for Jack and Linda.  Knowing Jack was with his mother.  Knowing how to help Linda.  The worse is the damned crying.  I can't think, see or hear anything.  I get a headache and my nose runs like a river.  I wish they'd find some other less uncomfortable way of getting my attention. (Y'all hear me up there?)

Has your life changed specifically as a result of your experience?         No

What other attitudes and beliefs about your experience do you currently have?        

No particular attitude 

My husband (who died 29 yrs ago) stayed with me for 2 years until I sold our real estate business and returned to nursing.  I felt his presence and heard his words coming out of my mouth when dealing with clients.  I was a super novice at real estate.  My mother visits from time to time, but it's just a presence.

Did you have any changes of attitudes or beliefs following the experience?   No

Did the experience give you any spiritual understandings such as life, death, afterlife, God, etc.?            No  I already have the knowledge.

Death Compacts are when two or more living people promise among themselves that whoever dies first will try to contact the other(s).  Have you ever made such a compact?        Yes

With my husband.  Jack and Linda also had a pact.  Both of us were married to our soul mates.  I was married 18 months, they were married 6-7 yrs.

Did you observe or hear anything regarding people or events during your experience that could be verified later?          Yes

Linda-see above.  My daughter.  I told her Jack had died before she could tell me.

What emotions did you feel during the experience?            Relief that Jack was out of pain and with his mother.  The doctor's told his wife two years ago to take him home to die.  He kept cheating death. I told his wife that he kept living as she wasn't ready to give him up yet.  She said she was ready to let him go finally.  I was glad it was over for the both of them.

Was the experience witnessed or experienced by others?           Yes

Time of death confirmed by wife.  Wife confirmed not paying attention, unable to pay for cremation.

Did you become aware of future events?       Yes  Linda would get money.

Did you have any psychic, paranormal or other special gifts following the experience that you did not have prior to the experience?         No

Did you meet or see any other beings other than the deceased?            Yes

My mother and Jack's mother.

Have you shared this experience with others?         Yes

My daughter and Linda.  They totally believe me.  Linda's daughter, a fundamentalist something or other.  She was very skeptical-totally unbelieving and would have tried saving my soul and her mother's except that we were so narrow-minded and stubborn.

Have you shared this experience formally or informally with any other researcher or web site?   No

Were there any associated medications or substances with the potential to affect the experience?            No

Following the experience, have you had any other events in your life, medications or substances which reproduced any part of the experience?         No 

Did you ever in your life have a near-death experience, out of body experience or other spiritual event?           Yes  #20053 NDE

Did the questions asked and information you provided accurately and comprehensively describe your experience?               Yes